what is the working solution? @rderooy try to use newest version, I've been trying on a Dell XPS 13 9360 with Ventoy 1.0.34 UEFI running and Memtest86-4.3.7.iso does not work. So, yeah, it's the same as a safe manufacturer, on seeing that you have a room with extra security (e.g. It should be specially noted that, no matter USB drive or local disk, all the data will be lost after install Ventoy, please be very careful. Thnx again. ventoy maybe the image does not support x64 uefi For the two bugs. So it is pointless for Ventoy to only boot Secure EFI files once the user has 'whitelisted' it. 2There are two methods: Enroll Key and Enroll Hash, use whichever one. Asks for full pathname of shell. Thank you! If everything is fine, I'll prepare the repo, prettify the code and write detailed compilation and usage instructions, as well as help @ventoy with integration. This will disable validation policy override, making Secure Book work as desired: it will load only signed files (+ files signed with SHIM MOK key). Can't install Windows 7 ISO, no install media found ? An encoding issue, perhaps (for the text)? Go ahead and download Rufus from here. I have the same error, I can boot from the same usb, the same iso file and the same Ventoy on asus vivobook but not on asus ROG. My guesd is it does not. . 2. . They boot from Ventoy just fine. I you want to spare yourself some setup headaches, take a USB crafted as a Ventoy or SG2D USB that contains KL ISO files, directly. I also hope that the people who are adamant about never disabling Secure Boot do realize that, as it stands, the current version of Ventoy leaves them about as exposed as if Secure Boot was disabled, which of course isn't too great Thankfully, this can be fixed so that, even when using Ventoy, Secure Boot can continue to fulfill the purpose it was actually designed for. https://abf.openmandriva.org/product_build_lists. I am not using a grub external menu. The error sits 45 cm away from the screen, haha. memz.mp4. Intel Sunrise Point-LP, Intel Kaby Lake-R, @chromer030 Your favorite, APorteus was done with legacy & UEFI EFI Blocked !!!!!!! Ventoy About File Checksum 1. Exactly. Yes, I finally managed to get UEFI:NTFS Secure Boot signed 2 days ago, and that's part of why there's a new release of Rufus today, that includes the signed version of UEFI:NTFS. Ventoy Forums Boot net installer and install Debian. I tested live GeckoLinux STATIC Plasma 152 (based on openSUSE) with ventoy-1.0.15. You signed in with another tab or window. To create a USB stick that is compatible with USB 3.0 using the native boot experience of the Windows 10 Technical Preview media (or Windows 8/Windows 8.1), use DiskPart to format the USB stick and set the partition to active, then copy all of the files from inside the ISO . If that was the case, I would most likely sign Ventoy for my SHIM (provided it doesn't let through unsigned bootloaders when Secure Boot is enabled, which is the precise issue we are trying to solve) since, even if it's supposed to be a competitor of Rufus, I think it's a very nice solution and I'm always more than happy to direct people who would like to have a multiboot version of Rufus to use Ventoy instead. Porteus-CINNAMON-v4.0-x86_64.iso - 321 MB, APorteus-MULTI-v20.03.19-x86_64.iso - 400 MB, Fedora-Security-Live-x86_64-32_Beta-1.2.iso - 1.92 GB, Paragon_Hard_Disk_Manager_15_Premium_10.1.25.1137_WinPE_x64.iso - 514 MB, pureos-9.0-plasma-live_20200328-amd64.hybrid.iso - 1.65 GB, pfSense-CE-2.4.5-RELEASE-amd64.iso - 738 MB, FreeBSD-13.0-CURRENT-amd64-20200319-r359106-disc1.iso - 928 MB, wifislax64-1.1-final.iso - 2.18 GB The text was updated successfully, but these errors were encountered: I believe GRUB (at least v2.04 and previous versions if patched with Fedora patches) already work exactly as you've described. How did you get it to be listed by Ventoy? So maybe Ventoy also need a shim as fedora/ubuntu does. Did you test using real system and UEFI64 boot? Level 1. Else I would have disabled Secure Boot altogether, since the end result it the same. privacy statement. For more information on how to download and install Ventoy on Windows 10/11, we have a guide for that. I test it in a VirtualMachine (VMWare with secure boot enabled). It's the job of Ventoy's custom GRUB to ensure that what is being chainloaded is Secure Boot compliant because that's what users will expect from a trustworthy boot application in a Secure Boot environment. 1. You can't. Changed the extension from ".bin" to ".img" according to here & it didn't work. If someone has physical access to a system then Secure Boot is useless period. You can grab latest ISO files here : I've been trying to do something I've done a milliion times before: This has always worked for me. Ventoy will search all the directories and sub directories recursively to find all the iso files and list them in the boot menu. I'm unable to boot my Windows 10 installer USB in UEFI mode? Tested below ISOs on HP ENVY x360- 13-ag0007au (1st-gen Ryzen Mobile convertible laptop, BIOS F.46 Rev.A) with Ventoy 1.0.08 final release in UEFI secure boot mode: Nice job and thanks a lot for this neat tool! So maybe Ventoy also need a shim as fedora/ubuntu does. Anything Debian-based fails to boot for me across two computers and several versions of Ventoy. Of course , Added. Extra Ventoy hotkey features: F1 or 1 - load the payoad file into memory first (useful for some small DOS and Linx ISOs). Already on GitHub? size: 589 (617756672 byte) Ventoy also supports BIOS Legacy. Hi, thanks for your repley boot i have same error after menu to start hdclone he's go back to the menu with a black windows saying he's loading the iso file to mem and that it freez. @pbatard If you do not see a massive security problem with that, and especially if you are happy to enrol the current version of Ventoy for Secure Boot, without realizing that it actually defeats the whole point of Secure Boot because it can then be used to bypass Secure Boot altogether, then I will suggest that you spend some time reading into trust chains. I have installed Ventoy on my USB and I have added some ISO's files : In this quick video guide I will show you how to fix the error:No bootfile found for UEFI!Maybe the image does not support X64 UEFI!I had this problem on my . The same applies to OS/2, eComStation etc. But . 10 comments andycuong commented on Mar 17, 2021 completed meeuw mentioned this issue on Jul 31, 2021 [issue]: Can't boot Ventoy UEFI Native (Without CSM) on HP ProBook 640g1 #1031 I think it's OK. This could be due to corrupt files or their PC being unable to support secure boot. 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The latest version of the open source tool Ventoy supports an option to bypass the Windows 11 requirements check during installation of the operating system. Just some of my thoughts: Windows 10 32bit only support IA32 efi, your machine may be x86_64 uefi (amd64 uefi), so this distro can't boot and will show this message. da1: quirks=0x2. There are many kinds of WinPE. This means current is 32bit UEFI mode. But, even as I don't actually support the idea that Secure Boot is useless if someone has physical access to the device (that was mostly Steve positing this as a means to justify that not being able to detect Secure Boot breaches on USB media isn't that big a deal), I do believe there currently still exist a bit too many ways to ensure that you can compromise a machine, if you have access to said machine. ? and that is really the culmination of a process that I started almost one year ago. can u fix now ? When enrolling Ventoy, they do not. (I updated to the latest version of Ventoy). Follow the urls bellow to clone the git repository. 4. ext2fsd if this issue was addressed), it could probably be Secure Boot signed, in the same manner as UEFI:NTFS was itself Secure Boot signed. It looks like that version https://github.com/ventoy/Ventoy/releases/tag/v1.0.33 fixes issue with my thinkpad. its existence because of the context of the error message. @ventoy This ISO file doesn't change the secure boot policy. Happy to be proven wrong, I learned quite a bit from your messages. If you burn the image to a CD, and use a USB CD drive, I bet you find it will install fine. 5. extservice git clone git clone ISO: GeckoLinux_STATIC_Plasma.x86_64-152.200719..iso (size: 1,316MB) . The MEMZ virus nyan cat as an image file produces a very weird result, It also happens when running Ventoy in QEMU, The MEMZ virus nyan cat as an image file produces a very weird result So the new ISO file can be booted fine in a secure boot enviroment. Google for how to make an iso uefi bootable for more info. Would disabling Secure Boot in Ventoy help? How to suppress iso files under specific directory . But when I try to boot it with ventoy it does not boot and says the message "No bootfile found for UEFI". Minor one: when you try to start unsigned .efi executable, error message is shown for a very brief time and quickly disappears. These WinPE have different user scripts inside the ISO files. Would be nice if this could be supported in the future as well. Shim itself is signed with Microsoft key. preloader-for-ventoy-prerelease-1.0.40.zip I will not release 1.1.0 until a relatively perfect secure boot solution. VMware or VirtualBox) Shims and other Secure Boot signed chain loaders do not remove the feature of warning about boot loaders that have not been signed (by either MS or the Shim holders). Which brings us nicely to what this is all about: Mitigation. By default, the ISO partition can not be mounted after boot Linux (will show device busy when you mount). Although it could be disabled on all typical motherboards in UEFI setup menu, sometimes it's not easily possible e.g. This completely defeats Secure Boot and should not happen, as the only EFI bootloader that should be whitelisted for Secure Boot should be Ventoy itself, and any other EFI bootloader should still be required to pass Secure Boot validation. PS: It works fine with original ventoy release (use UEFIinSecureBoot) when Secure boot is enabled. Also ZFS is really good. Ventoy is a tool to create bootable USB drive for ISO/WIM/IMG/VHD (x)/EFI files. This is definitely what you want. The point of this issue is that people are under the impression that because Ventoy supports Secure Boot, they will get the same level of "security" booting Secure Boot compliant media through Ventoy as if they had booted that same media directly, which is indeed a fair expectation to have, since the whole point of boot media creation software is to have the converted media behave as close as possible as the original would. plist file using ProperTree. Using Ventoy-1.0.08, ubuntudde-20.04-amd64-desktop.iso is still unable to boot under uefi. You were able to use TPM for disk encryption long before Secure Boot, and rightfully so, since the process of storing and using data encryption keys is completely different from the process of storing and using trust chain keys to validate binary executables (being able to decrypt something is very different from being able to trust something). Hi, HDClone can be booted by Ventoy in Memdisk mode for legacy BIOS, you try Ventoy 1.0.08 beta2. Is it possible to make a UEFI bootable arch USB? @pbatard, if that's what what your concern, that could be easily fixed by deleting grubia32.efi and grubx64.efi in /EFI/BOOT, and renaming grubia32_real.efi grubia32.efi, grubx64_real.efi grubx64.efi. Personally, I don't have much of an issue with Ventoy using the current approach as a stopgap solution, as long as it is agreed that this is only a stopgap, since it comes with a huge drawback, and that a better solution (validation of that the UEFI bootloaders chain loaded from GRUB pass Secure Boot validation when Secure Boot has been enabled by the user) needs to be implemented in the long run. Does shim still needed in this case? when the user Secure Boots via MokManager - even when booting signed efi files of Ubuntu or Windows? to your account, Hi ! Can it boot ok? unsigned kernel still can not be booted. I have used OSFMount to convert the img file of memtest v8 to iso but I have encountered the same issue. It's a pain in the ass to do yes, but I wouldn't qualify it as very hard. Again, the major problem I see with this fine discussion is that everybody appears to be tiptoeing around the fact that some users have no clue what Secure Boot is intended for (only that, because it says "Secure" they don't want to turn it off), and, rather than trying to educate them about that, we're trying to find ways to keep them "feeling safe" when the choices they might make would leave their system anything but. Option1: Use current solution(Super UEFIinSecureBoot Disk), then user will be clearly told that, in this case, the secure boot will be by passed. If you have a faulty USB stick, then youre likely to encounter booting issues. and leave it up to the user. Format UDF in Windows: format x: /fs:udf /q 2. Both are good. You can use these commands to format it: 6. V4 is legacy version. also for my friend's at OpenMandriva *waaavvvveee* Legacy\UEFI32\UEFI64 boot? Yes. In other words, that there might exist other software that might be used to force the door open is irrelevant. Then I can directly add them to the tested iso list on Ventoy website. That's actually very hard to do, and IMO is pointless in Ventoy case. Now that Ventoy is installed on your USB drive, you can create a bootable USB drive by simply copying some ISO files onto the USB, no matter if they are Linux distribution ISOs or Windows 10 / 8 / 7 ISO files. legacy - ok When the user select option 1. However the solution is not perfect enough. This iso seems to have some problem with UEFI. The only thing that changed is that the " No bootfile found for UEFI!" It works for me if rename extension to .img - tested on a Lenovo IdeaPad 300. Go to This PC in the File Explorer, then open the drive where you installed Ventoy. But MediCat USB is already open-source, built upon the open-source Ventoy project. In Windows, Ventoy2Disk.exe will only list the device removable and in USB interface type by default. The current release of Slax (slax-64bit-11.2.1.iso) fails to boot using UEFI64 using ventoy with the error message: For example, Ventoy can be modified to somehow chainload full chain of distros shim grub kernel, or custom validation functions could be made, which would, for example, validate and accept files signed with certificates in DB + a set of custom certificates (like ones embedded in distros' Shims), or even validate and automatically extract Shims embedded certificates and override EFI validation functions (as it's done currently to completely disable validation), but is this kind of complexity worth it for a USB boot utility which is implemented to be simple and convenient? Supported / Unsupported ISOs Issue #7 ventoy/Ventoy GitHub In this case, try renaming the efi folder as efixxx, and then see if you get a legacy boot option. If someone uses Ventoy with Secure Boot, then Ventoy should not green light UEFI bootloaders that don't comply with Secure Boot. I'll test it on a real hardware a bit later. I would assert that, when Secure Boot is enabled, every single time an unsigned bootloader is loaded, a warning message should be displayed. Expect working results in 3 months maximum. Fedora/Ubuntu/xxx). Ventoy can detect GRUB inside ISO file, parse its configuration file and load its boot elements directly, with "linux" GRUB kernel loading command. Ventoy2Disk.exe always failed to install ? Getting the same error as @rderooy. What you want is for users to be alerted if someone picked a Linux or Microsoft media, and the UEFI bootloader was altered from the original. First and foremost, disable legacy boot (AKA BIOS emulation). Some questions about using KLV-Airedale - Page 9 - Puppy Linux It's a bug I introduced with Rescuezilla v2.4. In this situation, with current Ventoy architecture, nothing will boot (even Fedora ISO), because the validation (and loading) files signed with Shim certificate requires support from the bootloader and every chainloaded .efi file (it uses custom protocol, regular EFI functions can't be used. The idea that Ventoy users "should know what they are getting into" or that "it's pointless to check UEFI bootloaders for Secure Boot" once Ventoy has been enrolled is disingenuous at best. 5. if you want can you test this too :) Will these functions in Ventoy be disabled if Secure Boot is detected? debes desactivar secure boot en el bios-uefi Let the user access their computer (fat chance they're going to remove the heatsink and thermal paste to see if their CPU was changed, especially if, as far as they are concerned, no change as occurred and both the computer appearance and behaviour are indistinguishable from usual). Adding an efi boot file to the directory does not make an iso uefi-bootable. I can confirm it was the reason for some ISOs to not boot (ChimeraOS, Manjaro Gnome). After the reboot, select Delete MOK and click Continue. UEFi64? They can't eliminate them totally, but they can provide an additional level of protection. Ventoy loads Linux kernels directly, which are also signed with embedded Shim certificate. Option 2 will be the default option. Is there any solution for this? Does the iso boot from s VM as a virtual DVD? Thanks a lot. Is it valid for Ventoy to be able to run user scripts, inject user files into Linux/Windows ram disks, change .cfg files in 'secure' ISOs, etc. In Linux, you need to specify the device to install Ventoy which can be a USB drive or local disk. Once here, scroll down and move to the "Download Windows 11 Disk Image (ISO) for x64 devices" section. Win10_1909_Chinese(Simplified)_x64.iso: Works fine, all hard drive can be properly detected. From the booted OS, they are then free to do whatever they want to the system. I don't remember if the shortcut is ctrl i or ctrl r for grub mode. Delete or rename the \EFI folder on the VTOYEFI partition 2 of the Ventoy drive. If you use the Linux kernel's EFI stub loader or ELILO, you may need to store your kernel on the ESP, so creating an ESP on the large end of the scale is advisable. It is pointless to try to enforce Secure Boot from a USB drive. However, Ventoy can be affected by anti-virus software and protection programs. Ventoy Binary Notes: This website is underprovisioned, so please download ventoy in the follows: (remember to check the SHA-256 hash) https://github.com/ventoy/Ventoy/releases Source Code Ventoy's source code is maintained on both Github and Gitee. I'll try looking into the changelog on the deb package and see if regular-cinnamon-latest-x86_64.iso - 1.1 GB, openSUSE-Tumbleweed-GNOME-Live-x86_64-Snapshot20200326-Media.iso - 852MB puedes usar las particiones gpt o mbr. @ventoy, I've tested it only in qemu and it worked fine. All the userspace applications don't need to be signed. This is also known as file-rolller. Ventoy supports ISO, WIM, IMG, VHD(x), EFI files using an exFAT filesystem. EndeavourOS_Atlantis_neo-21_5.iso boots OK using UEFI64 on Ventoy and grubfm. What system are you booting from? Then the process of reading your "TPM-secured" disk becomes as easy as: User awareness that their encrypted data was read: Nil. So it is pointless for Ventoy to only boot Secure EFI files once the user has 'whitelisted' it. I can provide an option in ventoy.json for user who want to bypass secure boot. Sign in Edit ISO - no UEFI - forums.ventoy.net wifislax64-2.1-final.iso - 2 GB, obarun-JWM-2020.03.01-x86_64.iso - 1.6 GB, MiniTool_Partition_Wizard_10.2.3_Technician_WinPE.iso - 350 MB, artix-cinnamon-s6-20200210-x86_64.iso - 1.88 GB, Parrot-security-4.8_x64.iso - 4.03 GB Rik. Please test and tell your opinion. Installation & Boot. For Hiren's BootCD HBCD_PE_x64.iso has been tested in UEFI mode. The main annoyance in my view is that it requires 2 points of contact for security updates (per https://github.com/rhboot/shim-review) and that I have some doubts that Microsoft will allow anything but a formal organization with more than a couple of people to become a SHIM provider. I really fail to fathom how people here are disputing that if someone agrees to enroll Ventoy in a Secure Boot environment, it only means that they agree to trust the Ventoy application, and not that they grant it the right to just run whatever bootloader anybody will now be able to throw at their computer through Ventoy (which may very well be a malicious bootloader ran by someone who is not the owner of that computer but who knows or hopes that the user enrolled Ventoy). This seem to be disabled in Ventoy's custom GRUB). Solved: UEFI boot cannot load Windows 10 image - Dell Mybe the image does not support X64 UEFI! Although a .efi file with valid signature is not equivalent to a trusted system. UEFI Secure Boot (SB) is a verification mechanism for ensuring that code launched by a computer's UEFI firmware is trusted. Secure Boot was supported from Ventoy 1.0.07, but the solution is not perfect enough. Besides, I'm considering that: It only causes problems. Is there any progress about secure boot support? Option 1: doesn't support secure boot at all But, just like GRUB, I assert that this matter needs to be treated as a bug that warrants fixing, which is the reason I created this issue in the first place. If you pull the USB drive out immediately after finish copy a big ISO file, most probably the file in the USB will be corrupted. But unless it exploits a Secure Boot vulnerability or limitation (or you get cozy with the folks controlling shim keys), that bootloader should require to be enrolled to pass Secure Boot validation, in the same manner as Ventoy does it. Test these ISO files with Vmware firstly. relativo a la imagen iso a utilizar And if you somehow let bootloaders that shouldn't be trusted through, such as unsigned ones, then it means your whole chain of trust is utterly broken, because there simply cannot even exist a special case for "USB" vs "something else". https://nyancat.fandom.com/wiki/MEMZ_Nyan_Cat https://nyancat.fandom.com/wiki/MEMZ_Nyan_Cat https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-mv6Cbew_y8&t=1m13s. . For example, how to get Ventoy's grub signed with MS key. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub2/+bug/1401532. Ventoy doesn't load the kernel directly inside the ISO file(e.g. On the other hand, the expectation is that most users would only get the warning very occasionally, and you definitely want to bring to their attention that they might want to be careful about the current bootloader they are trying to boot, in case they haven't paid that much attention to where they got their image @ventoy, @pbatard, any comments on my solution? So, Fedora has shim that loads only Fedoras files. They do not provide a legacy boot option if there is a fat partition with an /EFI folder on it. Tested ISO: https://github.com/rescuezilla/rescuezilla/releases/download/2.4/rescuezilla-2.4-64bit.jammy.iso. If you get some error screen instead of the above blue screen (for example, Linpus lite xxxx). In Ventoy I had enabled Secure Boot and GPT. If I am using Ventoy and I went the trouble of enrolling it for Secure Boot, I don't expect it to suddenly flag any unsigned or UEFI bootloader or bootloader with a broken signature, as bootable in a Secure Boot enabled environment. but CorePure64-13.1.iso does not as it does not contain any EFI boot files. your point) and you also want them to actually do their designated job, including letting you know, if you have Secure Boot enabled, when some third party UEFI boot loader didn't pass Secure Boot validation, even if that boot loader will only ever be run from someone who has to have physical access to your computer in the first place. That is just to make sure it has really written the whole Ventoy install onto the usb stick. GRUB2, from my experiences does this automatically. same here on ThinkPad x13 as for @rderooy Already have an account? As Ventoy itself is not signed with Microsoft key, it uses Shim from Fedora (or, more precisely, from Super UEFIinSecureBoot Disk). always used Archive Manager to do this and have never had an issue. By clicking Sign up for GitHub, you agree to our terms of service and Ventoy download | SourceForge.net ***> wrote: Besides, you can try a linux iso file, for example ubuntu-20.04-desktop-amd64.iso, I have the same for Memtest86-4.3.7.iso and ipxe.iso but works fine with netboot.xyz-efi.iso (v2.0.17), manjaro-gnome-20.0.3-200606-linux56.iso, Windows10_PLx64_2004.iso and HBCD_PE_x64.iso (v1.0.1) Lenovo Ideapad Z580. I remember that @adrian15 tried to create a sets of fully trusted chainload chains Ventoy 1.0.55: bypass Windows 11 requirements check during installation But, considering that I've been trying for the last 5 years to rally people against Microsoft's "no GPLv3 policy" without going anywhere, and that this is what ultimately forced me to rewrite/relicense UEFI:NTFS, I'm not optimistic about it. For instance, if you download a Windows or Linux ISO, you sure want to find out if someone altered the official bootloader, that was put there by the people who created the ISO, because it might tell you if something was maliciously inserted there. Maybe the image does not support x64 uefi . (Haswell Processor) Tested in Memdisk and normal mode with 1.0.08b2. Ventoy is an open source tool to create a bootable USB drive for ISO/WIM/IMG/VHD (x)/EFI files. Ventoy version and details of options chosen when making it (Legacy\MBR\reserved space) . No bootfile found for UEFI! Copyright Windows Report 2023. Insert a USB flash drive with at least 8 GB of storage capacity into your computer. I'm considering two ways for user to select option 1. Then Ventoy will load without issue if the secure boot is enabled in the BIOS. privacy statement. When ventoy detects this file, it will not search the directory and all the subdirectories for iso files. No bootfile found for UEFI, maybe the image doesnt support ia32 uefi error, asus t100ta Kinda solved: Cant install arch, but can install linux mint 64 bit. fdisk: Create a primary partition with partition type EFI (FAT-12/16/32). Help !!!!!!! Error : @FadeMind If so, please include aflag to stop this check from happening! Now Rufus has achieved support for secure boot as now NTFS:UEFI Driver is signed for secure boot by Microsoft. These WinPE have different user scripts inside the ISO files. 1.0.84 UEFI www.ventoy.net ===>
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